Birth
| Gramps ID | E0078 |
| Date | about 1836 |
| Place | Thelwall/Lymm, Cheshire |
| Description | 1881 Lymm, 1871 Thelwall, can't find the 1861 or the 1851 one, 1841 says Lancashire & living then in Poulton, Warrington, Lancashire. All pretty close - Lancashire and Cheshire divided by the Mersey... |