Birth
| Gramps ID | E0248 |
| Date | between 1827 and 1828 |
| Place | Llywel, Breconshire |
| Description | Not with parents in 1841 or 1851 census? Actually issue of Joshuah & Elizabeth? In saying 2nd son, is JONESFAM relying on census data or family tradition? |
| Gramps ID | E0248 |
| Date | between 1827 and 1828 |
| Place | Llywel, Breconshire |
| Description | Not with parents in 1841 or 1851 census? Actually issue of Joshuah & Elizabeth? In saying 2nd son, is JONESFAM relying on census data or family tradition? |