Robert Thomas (Ap Vychan) 1a

Birth Name Robert Thomas (Ap Vychan)
Gramps ID I0416
Gender male
Age at Death 70 years, 8 months, 12 days


I haven't found any relationship between the family of Robert Thomas aka Ap Vychan and Mary Thomas, wife of Simon Jones Lôn, or anyone else in the ApSimon family tree, but some such wouldn't surprise me.

I haven't included all the dates from the autobiography here.


Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth [E0976] 11/8/1809 Tŷ Coch, Pennantlliw-bach, Penanlliw township, Llanuwchllyn, Merionethshire Born in a humble cottage at the bottom of Pennant-Lliw. Family included the Fychans of Caer Gai going back to figures like Rowland Vaughan, Gwerful Fychan and Tudur Penllyn.  
Residence [E0989] estimated 1814 Tan-y-castell, Castell, Llanuwchllyn, Merionethshire The family moved to a larger house, called Tan-y-castell (TGEA: location speculative), which was rebuilt by the father; and in his autobiography the son speaks of the precarious days of his childhood.  
Religion [E0987] estimated between 1815 and 1828 Hen Gapel (Congregationalist), Llanuwchllyn, Merionethshire Attends Congregationalist Hen Gapel. In 1814 Michael Jones, regarded by traditional Presbyterians as a heretic (Controversy of the Systems), succeeded George Lewis as minister of the ‘Old Chapel,’ the Sunday school flourished in the district. In 1821 the Old People left and began legal action to retake the chapel, which they seem to have won around 1829, when Michael Jones and his people retired to worship at his home at Weirglodd Wen.  
Occupation [E0988] estimated between 1818 and 1822 Ty Mawr, Talardd, Cynllwyd, Llanuwchllyn, Merionethshire Shepherd boy. Before he was 10 years of age he had obtained a situation as a shepherd boy with Evan Davies and his wife at Tŷ Mawr near his home. Here the family was noted for its piety, and the impression it made on his mind was to last him all his life.  
Education [E0980] 1823 Llanuwchllyn, Merionethshire By the time he was 14 he could shape an englyn, and on the strength of this ability was admitted a member of the Cymreigyddion Society of Llanuwchllyn.  
Occupation [E0978] between 1826 and 1828 Lôn, Castell, Llanuwchllyn, Merionethshire On 1 March 1826, Michael Jones made him a grant from the Dr. Daniel Williams bequest (to enable poor children to learn a trade), and he was apprenticed to blacksmith Simon Jones (Lôn).  
Occupation [E1283] between 11/1828 and 5/1829 Tŷn-y-Cefn, Corwen, Merionethshire "When my time in Lôn was over, I went to Mr. Robert Roberts at Tŷn-y-Cefn near Corwen to work. I stayed there for six months. My master was a skilled craftsman. He was a quite avid reader and had many rather good books. But at the time I was there, he had the custom to often get drunk." 2
Occupation [E1282] between 5/1829 and 11/1829 Tredegar, Monmouthshire Start date probably correct, end speculative. "In early May 1829, I left Tŷn-y-Cefn and went to the ironworks in South Wales to work there for some months. I was in Tredegar and Dowlais, and I learned quite a lot during those months." 2
Residence [E0979] between 5/1830 and 5/1831 Oswestry, Shropshire In May 1830, RT moved to Oswestry to work for the Calvinistic Methodist minister/blacksmith Edward Price (1797-1887). (In Oswestry 1828-37, EP had shod cattle for drovers at Llangwm, recited Twm o'r Nant interludes (see Wild Wales), learnt sermonising listening to Thomas Charles.) Despite being an Independent, RT joined the Welsh-speaking Calvinistic Methodists in 9/1830 until Xmas Day 1833 when he had learnt enough English went over to the Independents with Thomas Jenkyn. 2 1a
Residence [E1279] between 5/1831 and 8/1831 Conway, Caernarfonshire [In May 1831] I repaired to the sea in Caernarfonshire and got work for three months with Mr. William Jones in Conwy, and my health was completely restored. 2
Residence [E1280] between 8/1831 and 5/1832 Lôn, Castell, Llanuwchllyn, Merionethshire After leaving Conwy and staying in Llanuwchllyn for a while... 2
Residence [E1281] between 5/1832 and 9/1832 Oswestry, Shropshire RT memoirs: After leaving Conwy and staying in Llanuwchllyn for a while, I returned to Mr. Edward Price in Oswestry; my brother Evan and I worked there for part of the year 1832. 2
Ordination [E0983] 19/6/1840 Dinas Mawddwy, Merionethshire    
Occupation [E0981] between 1842 and 1848 Salem Chapel, Liverpool, Lancashire In charge of the Salem chapel at Liverpool.  
Death [E0977] 23/4/1880     2 1a
Burial [E0982] 1880 Parish cemetery, Llanuwchllyn, Merionethshire    


Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Dafydd Thomas [I0417]29/12/17821863
Mother Mary Roberts [I0418]2/1/1785after 1863
         Robert Thomas (Ap Vychan) 11/8/1809 23/4/1880
    Brother     Ellis Thomas [I0464] 2/4/1823 5/10/1878
    Brother     Evan Thomas [I0550]

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