One of the principal flaws in the Vatican’s claims that the Inquisition was not really all that bad is the supposition that the distance that now exists in Spain between church and state was also present when torturing and burning women was the norm. It’s possible that the Spanish state tortured and burnt more than the Spanish church, but since for long periods the Spanish state was to a large degree a theocracy it is pure sophistry to see its actions as somehow separate from the church. (How many did the Spanish state kill for heresy? The press conference didn’t mention that.) I seem to remember the Pope apologising a few years back for any unnecessary thuggery committed by governments on behalf of Rome way back then, but it now looks like they’re pushing for a complete acquittal.
Here follows a quick translation of an account from the 1620s of a trial which – in the Vatican’s view – had a happy ending. It is from a collection of Madrid news stories of the time made by Agustín Gonzáez de Amezúa, published by Madrid Council in 1942, and made available by the RAE:
Cardinal Roger Etchegaray said during the Vatican press conference that
Unfortunately for him US torture of prisoners is notable principally for the fact that the US is extremely disturbed about it and committed to action; meanwhile the Vatican continues to pretend that the Rwanda genocide had nothing to do with its organisation in that country. (Oh, sorry, Rwanda was in the 20th century!) The Polish loon said in 1996 that
but clearly believes that that principle is not applicable to the US.
(Just to prove what an evenhanded person I am, I’ll try soon to post some excerpts from the diaries of a C17th renegade Dutch preacher.)
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I wonder if the people burned at the stake thought it was not so bad :)
I wonder if people think you’re a spamming scumbag, Dave